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Message #54. This is a followup to #37.

Name:April
Date:Friday March 21, 2003 2:04:11 pm MST
URL:http://www.toolady.com/www/resources/werluved
Subject:Re: PLEASE HELP????!!!!!!!??????
Message:Hi
 I agree with the last post take the bird from the cage and play on the floor or somewhere he feels a little more dependent on you. I know every bird here thats ever even attempted to bite has Never done so on the floor they are real sugar plums when they are down there.
The wings clipping is a must and also also the answering from another room

 If you do answer try answering and as you repeat get lower and lower this way the bird feels you have left the area and in most cases will Quiet down
 Yea it works lOl

Also if you are in the room and he yells ignore him i know its never easy. When Quiet finally whisper to him.
I have a Teil who is constantly yelling an indoor aviary with budgies who are really HAPPY and they show this by the chatter they are Constantly making LOL If i am into watching something or on the phone and need them to quiet i whisper hey guys hold it down Quiet They listen no for long maybe an hour tops LOl But i am used to them and it usually is not a issue unless I am handling a call. whispering to a bird does work by the way

Also we have a Amazon who came into the rescue. I was told he yells well he is a bird so that's to be expected but each day at a scheduled time if you come near my home you can hear me and ALL the birds raising the roof and singing and hollering. A friend gave me this tip when she had a couple screamers come into her rescue.
IT really works they all get it out of their system and the birds are no longer screaming LOl i must admit i thought she was joking but I have been there and she was not kidding.
 this helps them to get it all out their systems LOL may be true since it works with kids you take them out to a park and let them yell and play and run they come in no longer hollering and running and acting nuts lOl

I also agree with above poster please never ever hit a bird

Maybe Ken meant to tap a beak i am not sure but i also don't agree with that.
i have given a bird a time out and believe me they learn from that

Also you may want to use a extra perch to get him out till he is over this. it could be hormones and if so then well its a phase. If however you do not work with him and leave him get away with this biting and bad behavior he will know that it works and if he wants to be left alone he will do it again.
many folks when their birds do the bite thing they tend to give in and do one of two things leave the bird in the cage and not handle or interact
or
they just open the door and let the bird come out on the cage and play

both things teach the bird he has won and when they want to be king birdy an have control thats what they do bite as this has worked and they will get you to leave them alone

One thing I know is never leave a conure have his way. if you do he will run with it.
No playing on the cage they get to acting really bossy and big bullies when you do.
Let this little guy know who is in charge and that to come out and play he MUST step up be it Your arm or a stick to start and once this starts never go back to a previous behavior like leaving the door open or on the cage playing etc they NEVER forget!

Hope these tips help

 Good Luck
and feel free to write us if we can help
April




Paige & Sam wrote:
> I've only had my nanday for a few days, but from my bird experience
> over the last 2 1/2 years, I believe I can offer some advice. Do you
> yell at your bird to be quiet from other rooms when he's screaming?
> If so, don't do this! It's training him to scream. When he hears your
> voice, he associates screaming with getting attention (so, the bird
> will learn to scream because it knows it'll get attention). In a way,
> the owner is actually training their bird to scream by
> yelling/telling their bird to be quiet when it's screaming.
>
> When your bird bites, try not to jerk your hand away (I know this is
> hard not to do! Nanday bites hurt!). If your bird bites too hard to
> bear, try to get your bird out of the cage by getting it to step up
> onto a cloth. Then, take it into another room away from its cage. If
> your bird doesn't have its wings clipped, clip them as soon as you
> can (you will not believe how much tamer your bird will become!).
> Then, play with your bird on the floor (they are vulnerable there and
> have to depend on you - therefore they will learn to trust you more -
> but make sure you don't have any dogs or cats around!!!). Oh! Another
> tip about biting, if you're holding your bird and it tries to bite,
> shake your hand so that the bird will have to let go to regain it's
> balance (but don't shake too hard!). It may help.
>
> I hope I've helped! Good luck!
> ~Paige and Sam
>
> PS, I agree with you Ken...but I'm not so sure about hitting the bird
> on the beak when it bites...that would just make it more scared!
> Never punish your bird! They don't understand!
>
>
> Ken wrote:
> > I'm no expert, Ive had my Nanday for 2 years, but they seem to have
> > very challenging personalities. If he's biting alot, get his beak
> > groomed where at least it doesnt hurt that much, hit him on the nose
> > with your finger when he bites, make sure its consistent every time
> > so he learns that biting is unacceptable. Uusually changes in the
> > household will change a birds personality, look back at what
> > changed...maybe U moved his cage, maybe there are new things in the
> > living room,,,etc. Try to keep things consistent, or at least try
> > moving his cage around and see where he is most comfortable. As far
> > as the noise, theres not alot to do. My bird knows "be quiet", he
> > will squak real loud and then say "be quiet" right afterwards. He
> > knows that we dont like his loud squaking, and he knows what "be
> > quiet"..so work on teaching your bird that. Hit his beak and say be
> > quiet, again consistently until he repeats it or at least learns it.
> > Consistency is the key here and they need to know whose boss. Nandays
> > are characters and they will test U, they think they are the boss and
> > can do what they want at times so U have to make sure that they know
> > that's not acceptable. Having clipped wings helps tame them cuz they
> > dont have that freedom of doing as they please. Can anyone back me up
> > on this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > sara wrote:
> > > I bought my Nanday when it was 4 months old. He was real sweet, would
> > > cuddle with me, would talk to me (he has a great vocab)but maybe 2
> > > 1/2 years ago he started not coming to me anymore and then shortly
> > > after he just would scream at averything. if the phone would ring, if
> > > he heard anyone walk, if you opened doors, you name it he screams!!
> > > now the only person the bird will go to is my mother. it is really
> > > frustrating that all the bird will do is bite everyone(including my
> > > mother) and scream that i am to the point where i am concidering
> > > finding a new home for it.
> > >
> > > does anyone have any advice on how to get him to be nice again and
> > > stop SCREAMING?????

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