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Message #3385. This is a followup to #3384.

Date:Wednesday July 27, 2005 5:02:39 pm MDT
Subject:Re: cage and shoulder
Message:my dog is barely inside but when he is the bird is in his cage and the dog ignores it,my dog is active cause he's a german-sheperd and husky but never bothers the bird..i think. no he doesn't have any outside toys, all of his toys and shower bowls are inside his cage, his cage is pretty big don't know the size and it has a flat top. thanks for the help, its working!!

Margaret wrote:
> Well, the dog could be helping to make your bird feel safest while
> inside his cage. You might have more luck with your bird if your dog
> is put in a separate area while you're working with the bird. Is your
> dog a particularly active breed?
> It sounds like your bird is pretty close to coming out and enjoying
> time out of his cage on his own. Do you ask him to step up when he
> comes out on his door? Does your bird have a reason to come out such
> as a separate play gym area? Does he have a play area on top of his
> cage, is his cage top flat? What size is his cage? Does your bird
> like to take baths? Might he look forward to coming out to get a
> bath? I'm just trying to help you figure out if there is something to
> help your bird come out of the cage for, something he can look forward
> to. I know he'll look forward to being returned to his cage, but I'm
> talking about something he can enjoy while outside of his cage.
> He needs to know that he is safe and perhaps your dog is a little
> unsettling. Large, happy, tail wagging, toy-playing-with dogs often
> move a bit too fast for a pet parrot. Curious dogs that put their
> faces up to the cage can be quite unsettling to a pet parrot as well.
> The only thing I know about your dog as it pertains to the parrot is
> that you have a dog. Maybe you can tell me a bit more about how the
> dog reacts around the parrot and how he reacts to the parrot.
> The bird needs to know that you are going to respect his feelings and
> fears and that you are willing to take the time to earn his trust and
> make sure he feels safe, that you can and will protect him. If you
> can gently try to get your bird to make a little step forward, only
> stopping when the bird becomes/acts frightened, this helps him learn
> to trust you and slowly you should be able to get the desired
> results. The key is slowly, so this means patience. This could easily
> take another 4 months or so before you are to the point where he will
> come out even without the dog present.
> Let me know if any of this helps.
> carl18192000 wrote:
> > well i had him for about 4 months. he was purchased from a friend and
> > hes not very old i say hes about 1 year old or less. there is
> > children around the house but barely by him and i do have a dog and
> > every time the dog is by his cage pancho try's to bute him. i do
> > spend a lot of time by him and he lets me pet him and feed him trough
> > and on the door of his cage.he is happy to get his door open, when i
> > open the door he sits there and stares at me waiting for me to play
> > with him. i never forced him out cause he does bite and i have lots
> > of patience.
> >
> > Margaret wrote:
> > > How long have you had this bird, Carl? Is this a young bird recently
> > > purchased from a store or is this an older bird that you took in?
> > > Tell me a little more about the bird and what you know about his
> > > background, please.
> > >
> > > From what little I have to go on I'd say your bird is probably afraid
> > > to come out of its cage. This can happen for several reasons and if
> > > you tell me a little more about your bird I can probably give you a
> > > good idea why this might be the case.
> > >
> > > For some reason this bird might feel safest in his cage. Do you have
> > > any children in your home? How about any other pets?
> > >
> > > If your bird is frightened you'll need a calm and patient personality
> > > to help draw him out. If you already have a good relationship with
> > > your bird "through the bars" then you are off to a good start. Will
> > > your bird come over and let you scritch him through the bars? Will he
> > > take a treat from your hand through the bars? Do you spend time
> > > sitting by the bird's cage and letting him observe you to learn your
> > > moods and reactions? Are you "predictable" in your moods and
> > > actions?
> > >
> > > How does your bird react when you open his cage door? Will he accept
> > > a treat from you hands offered through the cage door? Take your time
> > > with the bird.
> > >
> > > Answer some of these questions for me and we'll go from there. I'll
> > > try to help you. Keep in mind though that this is not something that
> > > is going to change overnight. It can take months of persistent but
> > > gentle interactions to make some progress. You can't force the bird
> > > to do this, it has to have a trust in you first. Forcing the bird to
> > > come out can ruin all the work you've done and all the time you've
> > > spent building the bond of trust to begin with. It can set you back
> > > further than you were when the bird first met you. The key is
> > > patience.
> > >
> > > carl18192000 wrote:
> > > > my nanday pancho is very close with me but doesn't come out of his
> > > > cage. he is always in his cage and will never come out or come on my
> > > > shoulder or finger. what can i do so he comes out his cage and come
> > > > climb on my shoulder?

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