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Message #3307. This is a followup to #3304.

Name:ziggysmom
Date:Sunday July 10, 2005 3:45:14 pm MDT
Subject:Re: new nanday
Message:Actually sitting on my shoulder is fine....he is my office bird (I am a pastor and my office is about ten feet from my home) so I do a bit of computer time and he is more than welcome to sit on my shoulder. He bit me yesterday and today when the hand was in the cage (an actual bite as opposed to using his beak to step up).. He shies away from my hand or
a dowel when he is on my shoulder (but will give kisses and if I catch the right angle will let me scratch him). I have been placing my hand in the cage without expecting anything and now he climbs up on it and then off. I don't always take him out of the cage os he can get used to my hand being in their. I wont bore you with the details of trying to get him in a towel in order to hold him a bit, but when I was successful it was ok. I could get at his pin feathers. Am working on finding out what his preferred snack is so I can reward him. He gets off my shoulder and steps directly into the cage.    The people who sold him to me had a bunch off their birds in a playpen and Ziggy was attacked and then put in a car for a long ride and then another long ride to my house, new cage etc. The poor fellow is just a bit stressed. I was concerned that maybe the hanging from his beak was a stress thing. As I've read more about these great birds, I see they love antics...I actually went to the bird fair to see the Macaws....but Ziggy had other plans.....

Margaret wrote:
> Hi Ziggysmom. We're glad you found our message board.
>
> Birds bite for many reasons and I think this bird is biting hands
> because he thinks the hands are going to remove him from where he
> prefers to perch which is on your shoulder. This is not uncommon and
> the bird is basically communicating that he wants to stay on your
> shoulder and if his bites can intimidate you, then he'll get his way.
> All parrots want to be "boss" it seems.
>
> As long as you're OK with him being on your shoulder, that is one
> thing. But if he won't step up and get off your shoulder when you ask
> him to, you can try using a perch to have him step up onto. Most
> birds, with practise, will step up onto a stick. Use the words "step
> down" so your bird is also getting a verbal clue as to what
> behavior/reaction you're soliciting. If the bird steps down, praise
> him verbally, smile at him, tell him how smart and how good he is.
> Set him down on his cage or where ever the intended destination is
> and give him a treat reward. Verbal praise and treat reward
> (sunflower seed, dried papaya piece or whatever works for your
> particular bird) is a strong reinforcement. Soon he will look forward
> to "stepping down" to get his verbal praise and attention and his
> treat.
>
> If that doesn't work you may have to remove clothing to get the bird
> off you. He has to know that you won't hurt him and that he won't
> waste any trust that he puts in you, but he also needs to know that
> you are boss, in a loving and caring way. Never try to intimidate
> your bird in a threatening way, don't "punish" your bird verbally or
> physically, but he will need to learn that you will get your way
> because you are boss. If there is another person in the house who can
> come up behind you and move their hands towards the bird, you put your
> hands up as a "way out" and let the bird retreat to the "safety" of
> your hands (as compared to "their" hands) and then you have him where
> you want him in order to place him back inside his cage or where ever
> you intend to place him.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> ziggysmom wrote:
> > I purchased ziggy (not sure of age - perhaps 4 - or gender) yesterday
> > at a bird fair 'cause he picked me. (was in an awful cage...) Loves
> > to sit on my shoulder, but bite the hand..... Will be calling my vet
> > in the morning so he can recommend a avian expert. So here goes,
> > today he was hanging from his perch by his mouth and swinging his
> > legs.... (i got him a new cage and appropriate sized perches, and a
> > few toys which he hasn't played with yet..not sure he has had any
> > before)Anyone seen their bird do this??

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