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Message #2422. This is a followup to #2420.

Name:Jody
Date:Saturday December 4, 2004 3:43:55 pm MST
Subject:Re: Nanday walking problems vet visit
Message:mavrck wrote:
> Jody wrote:
> > mavrck wrote:
> > > Margaret wrote:
> > > > If it was a gradual thing, that kind of sounds like a poisoning or a
> > > > toxicity issue to me.
> > > >
> > > > That medicine you describe is Bactrim (the "pink stuff" <grin>). It
> > > > kills P. carnii, E. coli, Enterobacter, Klebsiella, Streptococcus,
> > > > Staphylococcus, Pseudomonas cepacia, Pasturella, Clostridia, Proteus,
> > > > Salmonella, Shigella, and Brucella. So it sounds like your vet may
> > > > think one of these things is affecting your bird. He doesn't feel it
> > > > is Psittacosis or else the drug of choice would have been the
> > > > doxycycline.
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that this Bactrim will help
> > > > clear things up for your baby.
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to see photos of your baby, any that you have (before
> > > > photos, after photos, anything). You can send them to me at
> > > > mmmadison@prodigy.net
> > > >
> > > > In my mind I picture you cuddling your baby up against your chest and
> > > > under your chin while you talk sweetly and soothingly and give him
> > > > head and cheek scritches. Do you help him get his food and water too?
> > > > He is really going to appreciate all these efforts you are putting
> > > > forth for his well-being. He knows he is loved. Take good care of
> > > > him.
> > > >
> > > > Keep us posted, for sure!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > mavrck wrote:
> > > > > Margaret wrote:
> > > > > > Oh, mavrck, I'm truly sorry. This must be so heart-breaking for you. I
> > > > > > know that must be so hard to watch. That poor little guy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How did all of this happen? Was he completely fine one day and the
> > > > > > next day you uncovered his cage to find him on the floor? Did it seem
> > > > > > to be a gradual paralysis that slowly spreads? Some toxins can cause
> > > > > > paralysis (avian botulism), but so can disease. Psittacosis can
> > > > > > affect the central nervous system and cause paralysis. Is your bird
> > > > > > receiving doxycycline? What medicine has your vet prescribed? Have
> > > > > > you noticed any improvements?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I so badly want to help you find the hope and strength to see your
> > > > > > little guy through this. It will probably bring your relationship
> > > > > > even closer. Don't give up on him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yea i was thinking about the Psittacocis aspect too. Yea it was a
> > > > > gradual progression to the way it is currently as i reflect back on
> > > > > it. It started out the he was having problems perching/grasping his
> > > > > branches. I thought that maybe his nails might have been getting a
> > > > > bit too long, so i trimmed them back. After that, he hasn't had the
> > > > > desire to perch at all. I guess the longer nails were actually
> > > > > helping him hold better. I cant help but think maybe i made it worse
> > > > > by the trimming.
> > > > >
> > > > > The antibiotic he gave me says "Smz Tmp Suspension 240mg" on the
> > > > > bottle. Not sure if this is an abbreviation or is the actual name.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just as an update though, after day 2 of the antibiotic and steroid.
> > > > > He does seems to have a bit more energy and has a stronger appetite.
> > > > > Not sure if this is just wishful/optimistic views i'm trying to see
> > > > > in him deluding me though.
> > > > >
> > > > > If any is interested, if ya send me an email ill see if i can take a
> > > > > couple pictures of him and send em to yas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all the wonderful words and encouragement.
> > > > > mavrck@comcast.net
> > >
> > > Yep its the pink stuff.
> > >
> > > Just to give yas all an update on Yeager, he is doing REMARKABLY
> > > better now after the third day of medication. Tonight he actually
> > > climbed the side of the cage as he got out of his Happy Hut and came
> > > to the cage door to be let out. Thats the first he has had the energy
> > > to do that in about 3 weeks. On top of that, he is now currently
> > > perched on my one hand as i type this and biting the fingers that are
> > > typing as they move across the board. Hehe i think my little guy is
> > > coming out of the dark.
> > >
> > > I cant really think of anything unusual or new that he might have
> > > been playing/biting with b4 this whole scenario started that might be
> > > poisonous, but ya never know.
> > >
> > > Anyway im gonna continue with the antibiotics for the full week and
> > > see what happens. I/we thank each and everyone of you for your words
> > > of wisdom and encouragement.
> > >
> > > Ill keep yas posted as the week goes along.
> > > Thanks again!
> > > Mavrck
> >
> > Mavrck - I'm gonna just throw this out there, since I have been
> > following your posts with Margaret. My Sun had an episode similar to
> > this about 3 1/2 years ago. The vet took a blood test and said our
> > baby had e-coli & high levels of lead in his blood. Don't know where
> > the e-coli came from - or the lead. I was told to get a lead test kit
> > and test everything the bird was on, around etc. I did and came up
> > with nothing. I decided to test our water as well. Guess what - I
> > came up with a light pink residue - in our water. Even though the
> > city we live in posts the chemical etc. levels in our water and
> > depict them same for humans. Our smaller pets can't tolerate the
> > levels we can. I immediately started giving our bottled water to our
> > bird for drinking, and he bathed in it as well. Needless to say the
> > medicine he was on worked and he was better within a week. I urge you
> > to test your water because even though the levels of everything that
> > is in it is safe for us, our little friends cannot tolerate the same
> > levels we can. It's a place to start anyway.
> > Our little guy never had a reoccurance of his illness - and it was
> > the joke at the vet that he was the "evian" bird. We have extremely
> > hard water in our home, so we get the 3 gallon large bottles over the
> > crock, and that's what we all consume. Including our birds !! I heat
> > about a gallon to luke warm and that's what they bathe in our kitchen
> > sink !! So I hope you find out at sometime point what could have
> > caused this - Good Luck to both of you !!
>
> ok thanks. Ill give it a look and see what i come up with. The only
> problem that i see here though is that if its lead poisoning its the
> same water he has been getting for the last 5 years that ive had him
> though.

Then it probably isn't the water - Just thought I would toss that out there since I wasn't sure how long you had your little guy !! We only had ours 3 months when this happened. At any rate - I wish you well and a speedy recovery

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