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Message #2417. This is a followup to #2416.

Name:Jody
Date:Saturday December 4, 2004 8:50:05 am MST
Subject:Re: Nanday walking problems vet visit
Message:mavrck wrote:
> Margaret wrote:
> > If it was a gradual thing, that kind of sounds like a poisoning or a
> > toxicity issue to me.
> >
> > That medicine you describe is Bactrim (the "pink stuff" <grin>). It
> > kills P. carnii, E. coli, Enterobacter, Klebsiella, Streptococcus,
> > Staphylococcus, Pseudomonas cepacia, Pasturella, Clostridia, Proteus,
> > Salmonella, Shigella, and Brucella. So it sounds like your vet may
> > think one of these things is affecting your bird. He doesn't feel it
> > is Psittacosis or else the drug of choice would have been the
> > doxycycline.
> >
> > I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that this Bactrim will help
> > clear things up for your baby.
> >
> > I'd love to see photos of your baby, any that you have (before
> > photos, after photos, anything). You can send them to me at
> > mmmadison@prodigy.net
> >
> > In my mind I picture you cuddling your baby up against your chest and
> > under your chin while you talk sweetly and soothingly and give him
> > head and cheek scritches. Do you help him get his food and water too?
> > He is really going to appreciate all these efforts you are putting
> > forth for his well-being. He knows he is loved. Take good care of
> > him.
> >
> > Keep us posted, for sure!
> >
> >
> > mavrck wrote:
> > > Margaret wrote:
> > > > Oh, mavrck, I'm truly sorry. This must be so heart-breaking for you. I
> > > > know that must be so hard to watch. That poor little guy.
> > > >
> > > > How did all of this happen? Was he completely fine one day and the
> > > > next day you uncovered his cage to find him on the floor? Did it seem
> > > > to be a gradual paralysis that slowly spreads? Some toxins can cause
> > > > paralysis (avian botulism), but so can disease. Psittacosis can
> > > > affect the central nervous system and cause paralysis. Is your bird
> > > > receiving doxycycline? What medicine has your vet prescribed? Have
> > > > you noticed any improvements?
> > > >
> > > > I so badly want to help you find the hope and strength to see your
> > > > little guy through this. It will probably bring your relationship
> > > > even closer. Don't give up on him.
> > >
> > > Yea i was thinking about the Psittacocis aspect too. Yea it was a
> > > gradual progression to the way it is currently as i reflect back on
> > > it. It started out the he was having problems perching/grasping his
> > > branches. I thought that maybe his nails might have been getting a
> > > bit too long, so i trimmed them back. After that, he hasn't had the
> > > desire to perch at all. I guess the longer nails were actually
> > > helping him hold better. I cant help but think maybe i made it worse
> > > by the trimming.
> > >
> > > The antibiotic he gave me says "Smz Tmp Suspension 240mg" on the
> > > bottle. Not sure if this is an abbreviation or is the actual name.
> > >
> > > Just as an update though, after day 2 of the antibiotic and steroid.
> > > He does seems to have a bit more energy and has a stronger appetite.
> > > Not sure if this is just wishful/optimistic views i'm trying to see
> > > in him deluding me though.
> > >
> > > If any is interested, if ya send me an email ill see if i can take a
> > > couple pictures of him and send em to yas.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the wonderful words and encouragement.
> > > mavrck@comcast.net
>
> Yep its the pink stuff.
>
> Just to give yas all an update on Yeager, he is doing REMARKABLY
> better now after the third day of medication. Tonight he actually
> climbed the side of the cage as he got out of his Happy Hut and came
> to the cage door to be let out. Thats the first he has had the energy
> to do that in about 3 weeks. On top of that, he is now currently
> perched on my one hand as i type this and biting the fingers that are
> typing as they move across the board. Hehe i think my little guy is
> coming out of the dark.
>
> I cant really think of anything unusual or new that he might have
> been playing/biting with b4 this whole scenario started that might be
> poisonous, but ya never know.
>
> Anyway im gonna continue with the antibiotics for the full week and
> see what happens. I/we thank each and everyone of you for your words
> of wisdom and encouragement.
>
> Ill keep yas posted as the week goes along.
> Thanks again!
> Mavrck


Mavrck - I'm gonna just throw this out there, since I have been following your posts with Margaret. My Sun had an episode similar to this about 3 1/2 years ago. The vet took a blood test and said our baby had e-coli & high levels of lead in his blood. Don't know where the e-coli came from - or the lead. I was told to get a lead test kit and test everything the bird was on, around etc. I did and came up with nothing. I decided to test our water as well. Guess what - I came up with a light pink residue - in our water. Even though the city we live in posts the chemical etc. levels in our water and depict them same for humans. Our smaller pets can't tolerate the levels we can. I immediately started giving our bottled water to our bird for drinking, and he bathed in it as well. Needless to say the medicine he was on worked and he was better within a week. I urge you to test your water because even though the levels of everything that is in it is safe for us, our little friends cannot tolerate the same levels we can. It's a place to start anyway.
Our little guy never had a reoccurance of his illness - and it was the joke at the vet that he was the "evian" bird. We have extremely hard water in our home, so we get the 3 gallon large bottles over the crock, and that's what we all consume. Including our birds !! I heat about a gallon to luke warm and that's what they bathe in our kitchen sink !! So I hope you find out at sometime point what could have caused this - Good Luck to both of you !!

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