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Message #2306. This is a followup to #2303.

Date:Tuesday November 9, 2004 8:52:42 am MST
Subject:Re: Buddy's 2nd Vet Trip
I do appreciate your input on this since I'm still new. I will jot down about the probiotic and ask the vet since I plan on taking him back to be retested to make sure he's doing better.
The Vet didn't get into alot of the information about the food, he just gave me a list of foods that would be very beneficial for him. Do you have a place I could visit or could you give me some tips about the foods and what's the longest they should be left in their cage. I don't want my little ones eating food that is spoiled since I'm no where near a pro at this.
I followed a link you posted to some articles you wrote about birds. I read them all and learned so much from them. I'm making a lot of changes already to help make sure they are as safe as possible and have clean healthy environments needed to grow and prosper. I've realized that some of the things I'm doing with my quaker Sugar for example have encouraged her to bite. Not me but my youngest son and unfamiliar people to her. Because I made a game of this she now thinks it's funny and I don't. I was already working with her to correct this behavior with her biting before I read your article and since I've read it I know how and where my mistakes were made and I'm working on correcting them.
I want you to know that I think your doing a wonderful job with helping as many of us new bird owners, as well as helping us with problems we aren't sure of even if we've had our babies a while. You are one great lady.
I'm glad that you and the few others that have offered me help are here for me and my babies... without you all, I would be lost.
Once again thanks so much.

Margaret wrote:
> I figured something like this might be going on. The same thing
> happened to a breeder friend of mine with a cockatiel chick that she
> couldn't get to wean after 5 months or so.
> If you are giving Buddy an antibiotic, I would definitely ask for a
> probiotic to give your bird once the antibiotic has finished. The
> antibiotic wipes the gut flora clean and the good and bad bacteria
> will need to re-establish themselves. Some pellets contain beneficial
> bacteria, but by adding probiotic to their water this will help
> re-establish the good (gram-positive) bacteria first so it gets a
> strong foot-hold before any of the bad bacteria start to multiply.
> This also helps prevent yeast infections from getting a hold in the
> gut before the normal flora re-establishes itself. It is not possible
> to overdose with the probiotic. My vet would say that a 90/10 bacteria
> mix was normal, but 80/20 is certainly better than 60/40. You don't
> want to give them the probiotic until after the antibiotic treatment
> is done or else you're making the medicine work harder than it needs
> to.
> Good, I'm glad the vet talked about how to give him foods and how to
> keep the foods safe and as bacteria free as possible. He probably
> talked about washing fruits and veggies with either antibacterial
> soap and water, a vinegar solution or some other way too, and then
> probably talked about how long you can leave out fresh raw vs. fresh
> cooked foods too. That is all good information to have and to know.
> Not that you caused this problem for your baby, he most likely came
> to you this way I would imagine.
> I'm so glad that Buddy won't have to suffer any more and that he is
> on his way to a healthy and happy life. This is wonderful news!
> Nancy wrote:
> > I recently posted concerns about Buddy's (my Nanday) behavior. I
> > called the place where I purchased him and talked with them about my
> > concerns and they set up an apt. for him to have a 2nd opinion with
> > another Vet. This is what I found out.
> > For one Buddy has an infection, His was Gram-Positive 60% and Negative 40%.
> > I was given some medicine for him for the next 7 days and will be taking him
> > back to make sure this problem is cleared up.
> > I was given some more information as far as foods go and what is the
> > best way to give them. I was also told to just watch him and observe
> > him for the next few months as far as his behavior to see how he
> > progresses.

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