Nanday Conure Forum

Message #2226. This is a followup to #2090.

Name:(No name)
Date:Monday October 25, 2004 12:51:42 pm MDT
Subject:Re: Should I or Should I not?
Message:Margaret, you're reply was wonderful and very informative, and couldn't have been better! But I must comment on one thing: "What if your boyfriend/husband/roommate hates your bird?" If you are a bird loving person and you want to have birds in the future i.e. you might plan to have kids, etc. but you do want to also own birds, I would suggest NOT dating or marrying someone that hates birds! :-) I wouldn't suggest changing your life to fit someone elses needs (having a dearly loved bird(s) for how long and getting rid of it because your boyfriend or husband wants you to! I say keep your bird and live how YOU want and find a boyfriend/husband who loves you for you and likes birds and isn't going to nag you to "get rid of that &*^!*#&^@ bird"). :-) Good luck on your decision on purchasing a fid. If you think you can do it, go for it, but consider your future closely. A fid (feathered kid, aka bird), especially a nanday, can be a wonderful incredible companion. And bring you years of joy and happiness if you plan it right.

    Indica

Margaret wrote:
> I am so glad you are giving this a lot of thought, and you should.
> These birds can live to be in their 40s, so it is not too unrealistic
> to figure that this pet may see you through to retirement (or
> thereabouts). That is a long term commitment, wouldn't you say?
> <smile>
>
> With that in mind, your situation today is going to be changing over
> the years... (and I'm not saying this is "you" or the steps your life
> "should" be taking, just tossing these situations out for the sake of
> consideration, OK?) ...from high school, through college and/or
> dormitory life, parties, social life and the dating scene, to a full
> time job much the same hours you keep today, through a husband,
> through pregnancy and raising babies, and so on. I bring these
> things up because some of the most common excuses people use when
> they need to rehome their birds are included there above. What will
> you do with your pet next year and for the next 4 years or so, if you
> go away to college and live in a dorm where you cannot take your loud,
> messy parrot? What if college, studying, parties and friends, and
> perhaps even a part time job to help you get through college - what
> if all that takes too much of your time up and you're too tired to
> let your bird spend a couple of hours out of its cage each day,
> prepare it fresh foods daily, clean the cage papers each day, wash
> the food cup with hot soapy water each day and freshen the food cups?
> What if your bird is going through a vocal period when you are trying
> to study for an exam? It can be hard to concentrate with a high
> pitched scream literally hurting your ears. What if your
> boyfriend/husband/roommate hates your bird? What if you live in an
> apartment eventually and cannot keep a loud parrot there, or if it is
> just a "no pets" apartment? What happens if you have a baby? Will
> you still make time for your bird? What about the parrot's screams
> which may wake your baby during daytime naps? What if your toddler
> teases your bird and perhaps receives a nasty bite? What would you
> do with your bird if you went on vacation? These are all valid
> questions to ask yourself before you actually bring home a bird.
>
> Now I certainly don't know you personally and I don't know your
> situation or what your future plans are, and of course I can't tell
> you what is in store in your future, but if you are career minded,
> what would you do if offered the opportunity to work in Paris for a
> couple years in the area you may be majoring in at college? Birds
> leaving the U.S. and going to other countries can often sit in
> quarantine stations for 6 months. Would you allow your bird to sit
> in a warehouse for that long with "strangers" caring for its basic
> needs? I'm sure it wouldn't be socialized or handled much, if at
> all, during that quarantine. What if your career involves
> occassional travel for weeks at a time? What would you do with your
> bird?
>
> Maybe you could consider bird sitting for someone? Do you know
> anyone with birds? Hey, if you're in Michigan, perhaps we can talk!
> I have 23 parrots and I spend 2 hours each morning before work
> cleaning cage papers, washing about 40 bowls with soap and water,
> refilling the food and water cups, then sweeping the floor first,
> then following it up with a vacuum. Heaven help me during molting
> season! LOL! Then there is the time I spend with them all each
> evening, preparing their fresh food items and giving them out of cage
> time and individualized attention. I'd love to take a vacation WITH
> my husband for a change. It would cost me over $500 a DAY to board
> my pets, so even an "el-cheapo" camping trip where there is no
> running water at $15/night would cost me over $2500 for 5 days. LOL!
> No fooling. But anyway, caring for someone's pets can give you a
> very realistic idea of what day in and day out life with a parrot
> would be like.
>
> I think that people with a full time job can own a parrot. You need
> to make sure your bird has things to keep itself busy with during the
> day. Don't spend more time each day with your new bird than you can
> reasonably expect to spend with it every day for the next 40 years.
> Many people make the mistake of holding their new bird all evening,
> playing with it constantly and inundating the bird with attention and
> as the "newness" wears off, they spend gradually less and less time
> with the bird who doesn't understand what it did because "mommy used
> to like me and spend a lot of time with me". Those birds often turn
> into "screamers for attention". I like to hide treats for my birds
> to find in their toys or in their food cups (such as burying a piece
> of dried fruit in their pellet cup). I like weaving paper or a straw
> through the bars to give them something to chew on. Perhaps
> positioning them near a window where they can watch the sky, the
> trees, or anything else out there. You may also want to cover a
> corner of the cage so that if something is scaring your bird outside,
> he can retreat behind his "privacy curtain". You could leave a TV or
> a radio on for the bird to enjoy. I like leaving cartoons/children's
> programming or an easy listening radio station turned on rather low.
> Happy sounds, no profanity and bright colors found in children's
> programming can be interesting for the birds to watch and the easy
> listening station provides pleasant background music because your
> bird will nap during the afternoons anyway. It is easier to nap
> without some hard driving rock or rap pounding out of the speakers.
> LOL!
>
> Birds aren't noisy all the time, but they do have their noisy times
> of day. Usually that would be first thing in the morning and again
> in the late afternoon or evening. So it can seem to someone who
> works full time that their birds are screaming when you're getting
> ready for work and screaming when you walk in the door (which they
> will do anyway because they are happy to see you!) and perhaps again
> a bit later right as the sun is going down. I don't think the
> Nandays squawk more than other parrots, but they do have a
> high-pitched squawk that some people find offensive. Have you ever
> heard one let loose in person? If not, I sure hope you don't first
> experience that when they are sitting on your shoulder. You will
> truly be temporarily deafened and your ear will experience actual
> pain, no kidding. You may not make any friends with nearby neighbors
> either. <grin> Oh, which brings up another question to ask
> yourself...what happens if you work midnights and have to sleep
> during the day - or if your husband or the next door neighbor does?
> Not everyone can sleep when the sun is up, not to mention when you've
> got a parrot sqawking too. My husband works midnights...he uses
> earplugs, closes the bedroom door, runs the window air conditioner
> (what he'll do this winter I don't know!) for background "white
> noise" and wraps a soft king size pillow around his head. That
> blocks out most of the din. Anyhow, that is another thought...who
> will take care of your bird's needs during the day if you're working
> at night and sleeping during the day?
>
> Well, this note is getting long enough here. Sorry for being so
> "wordy". I hope some of this helps.
>
> JessS wrote:
> > Hello! My name's Jess and I'd like to delve into the chasm of Nanday
> > conure information that is this forum. I've been a bird-junkie for
> > years but, unfortunately, have not been able to get one of my very
> > own due to the fact that I don't own the house I live in (I'm 17, not
> > some older girl who still has to live with her parents). But I have
> > done substantial research combined with having extensive hands-on
> > experience with caring and working with birds so despite never having
> > one live with me full time, I have a pretty good idea of what being
> > owned by a bird is like. The only real hitch is trying to decide
> > whether I would be right for a bird such as a Nanday. Thing is, I'm
> > in my senior year of high school and am rather busy during the day.
> > For example, most days I leave around 7 in the morning and dont get
> > home until 5. And some days, tuesdays for example, I don't get home
> > until even later. So as to my actual question, do you, the Nanday
> > experts, think it would be a good idea for me to get a bird such as a
> > Nanday, or a bird at all? Thanks a ton for any and all input :)

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