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Message #2094. This is a followup to #2090.

Name:Jess S
Date:Wednesday September 22, 2004 8:18:48 pm MDT
Subject:Re: Should I or Should I not?
Message:Thanks so much, Margaret! Let me tell ya, despite all the research and hands-on experience I've had, it's a real treat to have some one actually answer my questions so I don't have to make a guess on my own. All of your suggestions were dead on and, as it were, factors I've actually thought about before. I have to check with my first choice school to see what their policy on pets in the dorms is, but seeing as their an agricultural/animal oriented school, hopefully they wont be too mean about students bringing their owners with them. I have actually bird-sat a lot for a friend - their parrotlet, Naomi- and volunteer at a local wildlife rehabilitation center/zoo every weekend so really the only experience with birds that I haven't had (that I can think of) is actually owning one myself. Which, of course, I'm constantly seeking to change ;) As of right now, I do have the opportunity to get a young, (supposedly) male Nanday named Cloe. I can afford the initial cost as well as the continuous purchases for as long as the mind can see, but I'm a little worried that in all my excitement on finding this little fellah that I might be rushing into it too fast. That's why I'd like any and all help in putting my lifestyle into perspective and deciding whether or not this would be a good decision, not for me, but for the bird. So really any input at all will help much more than you can imagine :D Thanks so much to everyone who responded already!

Margaret wrote:
> I am so glad you are giving this a lot of thought, and you should.
> These birds can live to be in their 40s, so it is not too unrealistic
> to figure that this pet may see you through to retirement (or
> thereabouts).  That is a long term commitment, wouldn't you say?
> <smile>  
> With that in mind, your situation today is going to be changing over
> the years... (and I'm not saying this is "you" or the steps your life
> "should" be taking, just tossing these situations out for the sake of
> consideration, OK?) ...from high school, through college and/or
> dormitory life, parties, social life and the dating scene, to a full
> time job much the same hours you keep today, through a husband,
> through pregnancy and raising babies, and so on.  I bring these
> things up because some of the most common excuses people use when
> they need to rehome their birds are included there above.  What will
> you do with your pet next year and for the next 4 years or so, if you
> go away to college and live in a dorm where you cannot take your loud,
> messy parrot?  What if college, studying, parties and friends, and
> perhaps even a part time job to help you get through college - what
> if all that takes too much of your time up and you're too tired to
> let your bird spend a couple of hours out of its cage each day,
> prepare it fresh foods daily, clean the cage papers each day, wash
> the food cup with hot soapy water each day and freshen the food cups?
>  What if your bird is going through a vocal period when you are trying
> to study for an exam?  It can be hard to concentrate with a high
> pitched scream literally hurting your ears.  What if your
> boyfriend/husband/roommate hates your bird?  What if you live in an
> apartment eventually and cannot keep a loud parrot there, or if it is
> just a "no pets" apartment?  What happens if you have a baby?  Will
> you still make time for your bird?  What about the parrot's screams
> which may wake your baby during daytime naps?  What if your toddler
> teases your bird and perhaps receives a nasty bite?  What would you
> do with your bird if you went on vacation?  These are all valid
> questions to ask yourself before you actually bring home a bird.
> Now I certainly don't know you personally and I don't know your
> situation or what your future plans are, and of course I can't tell
> you what is in store in your future, but if you are career minded,
> what would you do if offered the opportunity to work in Paris for a
> couple years in the area you may be majoring in at college?  Birds
> leaving the U.S. and going to other countries can often sit in
> quarantine stations for 6 months.  Would you allow your bird to sit
> in a warehouse for that long with "strangers" caring for its basic
> needs?  I'm sure it wouldn't be socialized or handled much, if at
> all, during that quarantine.  What if your career involves
> occassional travel for weeks at a time?  What would you do with your
> bird?
> Maybe you could consider bird sitting for someone?  Do you know
> anyone with birds?  Hey, if you're in Michigan, perhaps we can talk!
> I have 23 parrots and I spend 2 hours each morning before work
> cleaning cage papers, washing about 40 bowls with soap and water,
> refilling the food and water cups, then sweeping the floor first,
> then following it up with a vacuum.  Heaven help me during molting
> season!  LOL!  Then there is the time I spend with them all each
> evening, preparing their fresh food items and giving them out of cage
> time and individualized attention.  I'd love to take a vacation WITH
> my husband for a change.  It would cost me over $500 a DAY to board
> my pets, so even an "el-cheapo" camping trip where there is no
> running water at $15/night would cost me over $2500 for 5 days.  LOL!
>  No fooling.  But anyway, caring for someone's pets can give you a
> very realistic idea of what day in and day out life with a parrot
> would be like.
> I think that people with a full time job can own a parrot.  You need
> to make sure your bird has things to keep itself busy with during the
> day.  Don't spend more time each day with your new bird than you can
> reasonably expect to spend with it every day for the next 40 years.
> Many people make the mistake of holding their new bird all evening,
> playing with it constantly and inundating the bird with attention and
> as the "newness" wears off, they spend gradually less and less time
> with the bird who doesn't understand what it did because "mommy used
> to like me and spend a lot of time with me".  Those birds often turn
> into "screamers for attention".  I like to hide treats for my birds
> to find in their toys or in their food cups (such as burying a piece
> of dried fruit in their pellet cup).  I like weaving paper or a straw
> through the bars to give them something to chew on.  Perhaps
> positioning them near a window where they can watch the sky, the
> trees, or anything else out there.  You may also want to cover a
> corner of the cage so that if something is scaring your bird outside,
> he can retreat behind his "privacy curtain".  You could leave a TV or
> a radio on for the bird to enjoy.  I like leaving cartoons/children's
> programming or an easy listening radio station turned on rather low.
> Happy sounds, no profanity and bright colors found in children's
> programming can be interesting for the birds to watch and the easy
> listening station provides pleasant background music because your
> bird will nap during the afternoons anyway.  It is easier to nap
> without some hard driving rock or rap pounding out of the speakers.
> LOL!
> Birds aren't noisy all the time, but they do have their noisy times
> of day.  Usually that would be first thing in the morning and again
> in the late afternoon or evening.  So it can seem to someone who
> works full time that their birds are screaming when you're getting
> ready for work and screaming when you walk in the door (which they
> will do anyway because they are happy to see you!) and perhaps again
> a bit later right as the sun is going down.  I don't think the
> Nandays squawk more than other parrots, but they do have a
> high-pitched squawk that some people find offensive.  Have you ever
> heard one let loose in person?  If not, I sure hope you don't first
> experience that when they are sitting on your shoulder.  You will
> truly be temporarily deafened and your ear will experience actual
> pain, no kidding.  You may not make any friends with nearby neighbors
> either.  <grin>  Oh, which brings up another question to ask
> yourself...what happens if you work midnights and have to sleep
> during the day - or if your husband or the next door neighbor does?
> Not everyone can sleep when the sun is up, not to mention when you've
> got a parrot sqawking too.  My husband works midnights...he uses
> earplugs, closes the bedroom door, runs the window air conditioner
> (what he'll do this winter I don't know!) for background "white
> noise" and wraps a soft king size pillow around his head.  That
> blocks out most of the din.  Anyhow, that is another thought...who
> will take care of your bird's needs during the day if you're working
> at night and sleeping during the day?
> Well, this note is getting long enough here.  Sorry for being so
> "wordy".  I hope some of this helps.
> JessS wrote:
> > Hello! My name's Jess and I'd like to delve into the chasm of Nanday
> > conure information that is this forum. I've been a bird-junkie for
> > years but, unfortunately, have not been able to get one of my very
> > own due to the fact that I don't own the house I live in (I'm 17, not
> > some older girl who still has to live with her parents). But I have
> > done substantial research combined with having extensive hands-on
> > experience with caring and working with birds so despite never having
> > one live with me full time, I have a pretty good idea of what being
> > owned by a bird is like. The only real hitch is trying to decide
> > whether I would be right for a bird such as a Nanday. Thing is, I'm
> > in my senior year of high school and am rather busy during the day.
> > For example, most days I leave around 7 in the morning and dont get
> > home until 5. And some days, tuesdays for example, I don't get home
> > until even later. So as to my actual question, do you, the Nanday
> > experts, think it would be a good idea for me to get a bird such as a
> > Nanday, or a bird at all? Thanks a ton for any and all input :)

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