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Message #2086. This is a followup to #2082.

Name:Diana
Date:Tuesday September 21, 2004 9:52:37 pm MDT
Subject:Re: Little Cuts
Message:I don't believe Kiwi was ever allowed to have full flight ability, unfortunately.  He's originally from a breeder in Utah according to his band, but I got him through a bird and fish pet store here in Colorado.  (How embarrassing; I swore never to get an animal from a pet store...)  He was hatched on April 30th of this year, and I've had him for about the last month.  The store has the birds long before they're ready to be weaned, and I have a feeling the flight feathers are cut as soon as they can be.

Kiwi definitely isn't afraid of flying; there are times I can't get him to stay on his perch.  If there's someone in another room, that's where he wants to be.  But we're still working on the whole aiming and landing part...  I'll definitely try your technique, though he's not very food motivated when he's outside his cage.  (Unless it's food I'm trying to eat myself, that is.)  Maybe if I draw up a syringe of baby formula he'd be more interested.

We can't wait for new feathers; I was under the impression it'd be a year before he molted.  Thanks for the advice; I'll have to be sure to consider the flight factor in future birds...  

~Diana

Margaret wrote:
> Diana, was Kiwi ever allowed full flight ability?  I'm not sure how
> you acquired him or what age he was when you did acquire him, but I
> firmly believe that all birds need to have flight ability for a
> certain period of time after weaning.  Perhaps Kiwi never had that
> ability afforded to him or perhaps it wasn't given to him long
> enough?  Birds need to have the confidence and the talent/experience
> to know how to maneuver to avoid injury when flying or landing.  All
> birds (and any birds that I'm weaning) should have times when they
> can practise flight.
>
> For example, I will start a bird that is weaning by encouraging and
> calling them to me (when I have their food ready) in a straight line
> flight path.  The next day, I may graduate this to a slightly curved
> flight path...for example, the bird is in the dining room and I am
> now in the kitchen around the corner from the bird's sight.  I poke
> my head around, show him the food, call the bird and ask him to come
> to me for dinner.  This might be a "whopping" total of 10 feet, but
> the bird will learn maneuvering techniques.  As the week progresses,
> so does the intensity of the maneuvering.  Not only is this abilty
> important for the bird's confidence (and personality enhancement)
> this also helps the bird obtain the necessary experience to be able
> to deal with a flight feather trim - severe, or otherwise.  The bird
> must have basic skills to use because dealing with a severe flight
> feather trim can be very challenging.  Having those skills can mean
> the difference between becoming seriously injured upon haphazard
> landing and landing safely.
>
> I believe you have a good understanding of all of this, Diana, and I
> think that if you allow Kiwi's flight feathers to regrow (which they
> should now because of molting, at least in the U.S. it is molting
> season), Kiwi will probably do just fine in the future.  I'd give him
> a couple of weeks of encouraging his flight, just to build his
> skills/confidence.  He may or not be willing to practice flight - as
> it seems to me that the youngsters are way more willing to practice
> this than the adults are (I don't know when Kiwi was hatched).
>
> Good luck with your baby.  I'm sure he'll do just fine.  Give him
> lots of love.

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